Review of Reservation 13 Last Night Meeting

Hello Kingman Park,

Last night I attended the Reservation 13 meeting with serveral other community members. It was an interesting meeting to say the least. I left the meeting feeling that the Mayor Gray and CMs Alexander, Evans and Brown really want the Redskins back here in Washington, DC. I feel that Reservation 13 should be  a mixed use development that would benefit the Hill East, Kingman Park and Surrounding Communities. What do you think? Leave your comment!

Below is the article from the City Paper by Lydia D.

Best, Lisa White ANC Commissioner SMD 7D01 Kingman Park

(Almost) Nothing Is Happening At Reservation 13

Posted by Lydia DePillis on Mar. 23, 2012 at 8:08 am

The first thing to know about last night’s meeting with Mayor Vince Gray and the Hill East community on the future of Reservation 13 is that there is no news.

The Redskins haven’t indicated their willingness to move their training center from Ashburn, Va., to the area around RFK Stadium. Gray said he hasn’t even talked to the team much since going to explore a similar facility down in Tampa Bay, Fla., which he did because Maryland and Virginia had already made their own pitches for the team’s relocation. And in fact, Gray thinks it’s “unfortunate” that news of the trip came out at all.

“Nobody wants to bring out anything that is half baked to a community. I think the worst that you could ever do is bring out a proposal to somebody, and there are more questions than there are answers,” he told several hundred residents in the vast, echoing D.C. Armory space. “That’s one of the reasons why there was no community meeting around this, because there was nothing to present, and there still is nothing to present.”

What’s more, he said, even if there were solid interest from the Redskins, the 2003 master plan would have to be updated and the site would have to be rezoned in order for anything to actually get built.

Here’s what Gray has done: Told the Deputy Mayor for Planning and Economic Development to ask the two developers that had responded to a request for proposals for their best and final offers on the site. But that doesn’t mean anything will happen, since the project needs something big to get it rolling. “We need a catalyst for development in Hill East,” Gray said. “I don’t know what it is. I don’t know if it’s a training facility or what.”

That’s the inconvenient truth of this whole business: Reservation 13 currently houses uses that are very difficult to relocate, including the largest family shelter in the city, a meth clinic, and a jail. What’s more, out of the big six projects on D.C.’s to-do list, all of them—the Southwest Waterfront, McMillan, Walter Reed, and St. Elizabeths—are ahead of Hill East in the pipeline, with the exception of Poplar Point. Even with the interest of private developers, the site would likely need significant public investment for infrastructure, which the city isn’t ready to offer up right now. That’s why, as Gray put it, there is “little interest in moving forward with the entire site.” So as long as the city has other projects to work on, might as well keep the Redskins on the table for Hill East.

But there seems to be a fundamental disjuncture in Gray’s pitch. He and the three councilmembers on the stage with him—Jack Evans, Yvette Alexander, and Michael Brown—take as an article of faith that anybody else cares about bringing the Redskins to Washington (the councilmember who used to represent the site before redistricting, Ward 6′s Tommy Wells, couldn’t make the meeting after it was rescheduled). Over and over again, they professed their Skins fandom, and expressed indignation that the “Washington” Redskins never set foot in the District. “Nothing hurt me more than when the Washington Redskins moved to Landover, Maryland,” said Alexander. Gray appealed for unity: “If we banded together and said that we want our team back, and worked together I honestly believe that that would happen, rather than battling over a non-existent plan at this stage.”

Those lines fell flat.

Evans, who has been the most vocal in his desire to lure the franchise, tried to make a more substantive case for the scheme. He outlined his theory of the four things that make a successful city: Neighborhoods, arts, retail, and sports facilities (no mention of education, as Advisory Neighborhood Commission 7A chair Villareal Johnson noted later). He talked about the transit benefits of having a stadium on a Metro stop, rather than in a place only accessible by car. And he recalled opposition to the Verizon Center and Nationals Park, which he said have both generated tremendous returns.

But those arguments really only apply to a stadium that would draw crowds, which isn’t even in play at the moment, and wouldn’t be until 2027, when the Redskins’ lease expires at FedEx field.

So, what’s the benefit of a training facility? Brown, who had visited the one in Tampa, said it meshed really well with the surrounding neighborhood, and generated needed jobs. Gray even tried to argue that since professional athletes tend to live near where they practice, rather than where they play, the District might even recapture some income taxes from their multi-million-dollar salaries. (I’m pretty sure that building several hundred homes there has a more reliable return on investment).

Moreover, everybody said, bringing a training facility wouldn’t mean that other elements of the plans envisioned for Reservation 13—housing, retail, offices, a hospital—couldn’t happen. But as Mike DeBonis has outlined, there would sure be a lot less space for all that stuff.

Hill Easters may have been reassured that no deals had been made without their consent. But it’s safe to say that the folks who’ve organized around Reservation 13 for years were not reassured by the language coming out of the Councilmember who now has jurisdiction over the site. Even as Gray talked about avoiding a turf battle over the future of the site, Ward 7′s Alexander wasted no time in bringing up the still-raw memory of redistricting, noting that Ward 7 residents hadn’t cared much about gaining a piece of land that only had prison inmates for population.

“Oh, how the tables turn,” she gloated. “Now Reservation 13 is being pulled and tugged among both Ward 6 and Ward 7, because everyone realizes now what a great opportunity it is….So I’m very pleased to see Ward 6 and Ward 7 together. But let me be perfectly clear, that now that Reservation 13 is in Ward 7, I will wholeheartedly listen, first and foremost, to the residents of Ward 7.”

“You can clap for that, Ward 7,” Alexander said, to almost inaudible applause. That kind of pandering is to be expected from someone in a fight to keep her job, I suppose.

All in all, a frustrating evening for Hill East. A couple of times, Gray tried to throw them a bone by talking about revitalizing the Eastern Branch Boys and Girls Club, which has sat vacant for three years. It may be all that he’s able to offer.

More Washington Redskins Articles on Reservation 13

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Below are articles about the Washington Redskins and Reservation 13. Hopefully we will hear the Mayor’s vision/plan soon!

Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-parcel-may-not-be-big-enough-for-plans-for-redskins-facility-and-redevelopment/2012/03/02/gIQArmUnnR_story.html

Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/mike-debonis/post/the-fuzzy-math-of-putting-the-redskins-at-hill-east/2012/03/02/gIQAlNkCnR_blog.html

Washington Post Opinions: http://www.washingt onpost.com/ opinions/ new-neighborhood s-and-not- redskins- practice- fields-are- the-districts- future/2012/ 03/01/gIQAtDPvmR _story.html

Washington Post Article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-hopes-to-lure-redskins-back/2012/03/01/gIQA2EgklR_story_1.html

Greater Greater Washington Article: http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/12669/

Information from CM Barry: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/looselips/2012/02/24/marion-barry-on-redskins-return-thats-fantasyland/

Information from CM Wells: http://www.tommywells.org/2012/03/wells-comments-2.phpdc-is-better-off-without-redskins-stadium-or-practice-fields/

Washington Citypaper: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/looselips/2012/03/02/jack-evans-to-redskins-haters-chillax/

Mayor Gray to Attend March 26 Community Meeting on Reservation 13

Today, 12 ANC commissioners representing districts adjacent to or near Reservation 13, the former site of DC General Hospital, announced that DC Mayor Vincent Gray will attend a March 26 community meeting to discuss the future development at the site. Here are the meeting details:

 
The Future of Reservation 13
Monday, March 26, 2012
7:00 pm – 9:00 pm
Eastern High School
1700 East Capitol Street NE
 
In December, 12 ANC commissioners invited Mayor Gray to participate in a community meeting to discuss stalled development plans at Reservation 13. The site’s master plan, approved by the DC Council in 2002, envisioned a mixed-use residential, retail and office development that extended neighborhood streets to the Anacostia River.
 
Recently, Mayor Gray has stated his desire to build a training facility for the Washington Redskins at Reservation 13 and/or the RFK parking lots. At the March 26 meeting, the Mayor is expected to discuss the proposed facility and his vision for developing the area. ANC commissioners are interested in how a
training facility would fit into the community-supported master development plan. In addition to the March 26 meeting with the Mayor, interested residents can learn more about Reservation 13 and the master plan at an informational meeting on:
Thursday, March 22, 2012, 7:00 pm
– 8:30 pm at St. Coletta of Greater Washington,
1901 Independence Avenue SE.
 
The 12 ANC commissioners, representing Single Member Districts in both Wards 6 & 7, are: Nick Alberti (6A05), Francis Campbell (6B10), Sheila Carson-Carr (7A01), Jared Critchfield (6B06), Brian Flahaven (6B09), David Holmes (6A03), Neil Glick (6B08), Carol Green (6B07), Villareal Johnson (7A07), Brian Pate(6B05), Lia Veenendaal-Selck (6A08) and Lisa White (7D01).

Articles about Reservation 13 and Redskin Training Facility

Articles from dcist.com and Greater Greater Washingtonblog about Reservation 13 and the Mayor’s Plan for the Redskins.

I will keep everyone posted about development on Reservation 13.

Best, Lisa White- ANC Commissioner SMD 7D01 Kingman Park

 

Article from dcist.com blog:

When Mayor Vince Gray and Councilmembers Michael Brown (I-At Large) and Jack Evans (D-Ward 2) visited Tampa late last year to take a look at the state-of-the-art training facility used by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, it could have seemed like an ongoing exercise in wishful thinking to get the Redskins back to move their Ashburn-based training facility into the District. Maybe not.

On Monday, Deputy Mayor for Planning and Economic Development Victor Hoskins met with a group of ANC commissioners from wards 6 and 7 to discuss stalled plans for Reservation 13, the 67-plot of land where RFK Stadium, the old D.C. General Hospital and the D.C. Jail are currently located. According to Lisa White, a Ward 7 ANC commissioner who attended the meeting, Hoskins told them that longstanding plans for the site’s redevelopment were on hold while Gray continues discussions with team officials over a possible Redskins training facility.

Jose Sousa, Hoskins’ spokesman, confirmed that the discussions were taking place. “There have been ongoing informal conversations between the Mayor and the team for some time,” wrote Sousa in an email.

Much to the chagrin of the commissioners who attended the meeting, though, Hoskins said he had no further information on any potential Redskins training facility or how it might impact existing plans for mixed-use development on the site. The most he could offer was that District would know whether a training facility is in the cards within 30 days.

Neil Glick, a Ward 6 ANC commissioner, said that while he wasn’t averse to the idea of a training facility, he and fellow neighborhood leaders were frustrated with the lack of communication or clarity from the city on how it planned to move forward — training facility or not.

“Reservation 13 is always on hold,” he said. “They just don’t have a plan. What’s something like this going to do for us?”, he asked of the training facility. (Glick’s colleague Brian Flahaven sounded a similarly frustrated tone in a blog post on the meeting.)

Gray’s overtures to Snyder haven’t gone unnoticed by officials in Loudoun County, who in January repeated an offer to build the team a Hall of Fame at the existing training facility. The potential for a bidding war between various jurisdictions over the Redskins’ training facility makes Glick nervous, he admitted.

“D.C. has a really bad history of doing nothing to help small business owners while offering oodles of tax breaks to corporations,” he said. Glick, who’s a realtor and real estate investor, also seemed miffed that the city would be stalling on building housing on a site that’s next to a Metro station and bordering the Anacostia River.

According to Sousa, Hoskins’ staff will be meeting with members of the community “in the next month” to discuss standing plans for Reservation 13, and Gray will follow up with a late-March meeting on whether or not a training facility will be coming to Capitol Hill.

Article from Greater Greater Washington:

Mayor Gray’s office is stalling any progress on a plan to build a new mixed-use neighborhood that has widespread community support, because they’d rather turn over the land to the Washington Redskins for a practice facility that won’t do anything for the community or DC.

7 ANC commissioners met last night with Victor Hoskins, DC’s Deputy Mayor for Planning and Economic Development to discuss “Hill East,” also known as Reservation 13. After a long process with thorough public participation, DC created a plan to build a “vibrant, mixed-use urban waterfront community” on 50 acres of the site.

Based on reports from ANC commissioner Brian Flahaven, it appears that vibrancy and tree-lined public streets are taking a back seat to large empty football field-sized spaces closed to the public:

The Mayor’s Office is continuing to negotiate with Dan Snyder and the Washington Redskins to build a training facility at Reservation 13. Until the outcome of the negotiations is determined, any development plans for Reservation 13 remain on hold.

Commissioners strongly pushed back that the community must be involved in the decision about a training facility on the site and expressed frustration that the Mayor is not seeking feedback from residents. Deputy Mayor Hoskins said that his office is not involved in the negotiations. …

The Deputy Mayor said his office should know whether the city will pursue a training facility or continue with the current development plans in 30 days. If plans for a training facility do not move forward, he said that the city would return to development plans approved by the community. … The Deputy Mayor also said that any training facility proposal would have to be consistent with the zoning for the site. …

All 9 Commissioners, representing Wards 6 & 7, agreed that Mayor Gray needs to come out to the community and explain how a potential training facility fits into the master development plan agreed to by residents.

It’s possible to vaguely imagine a way that a practice facility could be part of a mixed-use neighborhood. For example, the Redskins could build practice fields and any necessary parking entirely underground, then put surface streets, parks, and buildings on top of them. Their offices could occupy a building with ground-floor retail that’s open to the public.

Dan Snyder could build all of this entirely with his own money, in this very urban way. But does anyone seriously believe that is possible? This is the guy who tried to charge people just to walk into his stadium instead of paying huge parking fees. Would he actually want to design practice fields that fit into a good neighborhood landscape when he has a perfectly good, entirely private facility in Ashburn?

Maybe if the District built the whole thing and gave it to him for free, he’d accept the deal, but it would be a terrible bargain for taxpayers. If he paid money for it, why would he want to spend extra money just to essentially make the facility invisible and unobtrusive?

Certain city leaders seem to believe that bringing the Redskins to DC is worth virtually any cost simply for the civic pride involved in having an NFL team inside one’s borders. We know Jack Evans has a massive blind spot for organized sports. He abhors spending government money on anything except sports facilities, where the sky’s the limit. We know that Michael Brown doesn’t know any better. We should expect better from Mayor Gray.

 

Redskin Training Facility Possible Deal… Holding Up Reservation 13 Development

Below is an update from the meeting I attented with Deputy Mayor Hoskins and fellow ANC Commissioners. I will keep everyone posted on any new developments with Reservation 13 and the Redskin Training Facility Proposal.

Lisa White, ANC Commissioner SMD 7D01 Kingman Park

Last night, 9 ANC commissioners met with Victor Hoskins, Deputy Mayor for Planning and Economic Development, to discuss the status of development plans for Reservation 13, the 67-acre site of the former DC General Hospital. Here is what we learned:

• The Mayor’s Office is continuing to negotiate with Dan Snyder and the Washington Redskins to build a training facility at Reservation 13. Until the outcome of the negotiations is determined, any development plans for Reservation 13 remain on hold. Commissioners strongly pushed back that the community must be involved in the decision about a training facility on the site and expressed frustration that the Mayor is not seeking feedback from residents. Deputy Mayor Hoskins said that his office is not involved in the negotiations.

• Commissioners voiced concern about what a training facility would do to the master plan for the site approved by the DC Council and the community. We also asked where the facility would be located on the site. Deputy Mayor Hoskins said he did not have specific information on where the facility would be located, but said that the community would be involved in the discussion if the city moves forward on the facility. We pushed back that residents should be involved in the discussion now…before a decision is made.

• The Deputy Mayor said his office should know whether the city will pursue a training facility or continue with the current development plans in 30 days. If plans for a training facility do not move forward, he said that the city would return to development plans approved by the community, beginning with parcels located next to the Stadium-Armory Metro station at 19th and C Streets SE. The Deputy Mayor also said that any training facility proposal would have to be consistent with the zoning for the site.

• Commissioners expressed frustration that the Mayor has not made Reservation 13 a priority, particularly given its access to Metro and waterfront location. Deputy Mayor Hoskins responded that his office’s involvement demonstrated that Mayor Gray is still committed to developing the site.

• All 9 Commissioners, representing Wards 6 & 7, agreed that Mayor Gray needs to come out to the community and explain how a potential training facility fits into the master development plan agreed to by residents. We asked Deputy Mayor Hoskins to relay this message directly to the Mayor. The Deputy Mayor reiterated his commitment to participate in a community meeting with or on behalf of the Mayor.

9 Commissioners: Nick Alberti (6A05), Francis Campbell (6B10), Sheila Carson-Carr (7A01), Jared Critchfield (6B06), Neil Glick (6B08), David Holmes (6A03), Villareal Johnson (7A07), and Lisa White (7D01).